Published by Brian Slezak on 02 Aug 2008 at 01:41 pm
When I Use Electronic Payment
As a follow up to my last post, I thought I’d explain when I use electronic payment options over paper options. This is in answer Laura’s comment, because my comment got too long.
My wife and I regularly attend Living Water Christian Church, where Laura Guy, wife to my boss Clif Guy. We also give regularly, by check, even after the option became available to use PayPal. Honestly, I had told Clif that we’d be one of the first people to sign up for electronic transactions at Living Water. We haven’t yet, because of the reason Laura mentions in her previous comment.
My lifestyle, since I can remember having to pay bills, is to use electronic transfers. I haven’t paid a utility bill by check since about 1998, excluding the one or two months between moving and signing up for electronic transfer once again. The main reason is that I’m horrible at remembering to pay bills! Send me the statement or invoice, and I’ll make sure it is free from mistakes before you hit my account with an EFT, but don’t expect me to remember to send you a check at the right time. I want to pay it on time every time, and I feel horrible when I’m late to pay, but I’ll miss it many times per year.
The other part of my lifestyle, strangely enough, is that I’ll always pick the cheaper option. I refuse to pay $5-15 to electronically submit my income tax, when I can print everything out and mail it in for cost of First Class mail, currently 42-59 cents. (As a side rant, leave it to government to make what should be the less expensive option for them, more expensive for us! How about no? Process my paper!) I have a printer; I have envelopes, and when I go to the post office they sell me postage.
I only use electronic submission when it’s roughly equivalent to the cheapest option, because only then does convenience begin edging out price.
So after I got the e-mail from Laura stating that PayPal was available, I thought, “Excellent. Lets do that.” Then it hit me. I paused. The reality that it was my money that was about to be trimmed, three to four percent plus a transaction fee going to PayPal, rather than all of it to the church; I suddenly didn’t want to do it. I had always known that fee was there, but when it was my money I thought about it a great deal more. We’re there every weekend we can be, and we have checkbooks, and when we fill out a check and put it in the basket, it fulfills our contribution.
Just this week, I was surprised to learn that Resurrection is stopping remote deposit because after using it for some time they’ve found that sum of labor, time, and frustration of remote deposit is greater than the ease of letting the paper check do its thing. This is mostly due to the inefficiencies and duplicated efforts of the process we are currently locked into, but it examples how electronic solutions are not inherently easier and cheaper.
Now I will openly admit that this is where Laura may trump my position on this.
If the cost of business though PayPal is less than the overhead it takes to manually process our check every month – my bad, I’ll sign up today.
Tags: contribution, eft, giving, remote deposit
Laura Guy on 02 Aug 2008 at 2:45 pm #
It isn’t – not yet anyway. Truthfully, if we could get everyone to give electronically, it would save us some on the gas to drive to the bank every Monday, and it would save us a little bit on the bookkeeper’s time to enter all the names of contributors. But we have volunteers who count and record the money each week, so the savings to us on the cost of doing business would be minimal right now.
The advantage to online giving for us would be greatest in receiving gifts from people who wouldn’t otherwise give. For example, we do have people that listen to the podcast each week, and if some of them would like to support the church, online giving would be much easier than mailing in a check – something which none of our podcast listeners has ever done. Online giving could also be helpful if people want to give regularly but they travel a lot.
Theologically, I also struggle with the idea of “offering” – giving our resources to God – when it is done outside of the context of worship. If our giving to the church becomes just another monthly bill that we pay at our computers, have we lost the sense that worship involves both giving and receiving? I love how we have the time of offering at Living Water at the same time we do communion. OK, I’m biased, but I think it’s so cool that we can step up to receive the gift Christ offers us, and then we immediately have an opportunity to give something back – a token of our love and adoration for all he has done for us. But the reality is that fewer and fewer people can even find their checkbooks on Sunday morning. So maybe we need to find a way to “enact” giving an offering in worship for the people have already given online.
OK, I’ll stop writing sermons on your blog
But I think this is going to be a topic that most churches wrestle with for months and years to come.
Brian Slezak on 03 Aug 2008 at 8:50 pm #
Hahah! Writing sermons all over my blog.
That’s ok, it is a good discussion. You made a point that I did not, which is the ability for remote participants to give easily where they otherwise could not. If at some point it does become easier for the church, let me know and I’ll sign up.
Glenn Kelley on 08 Aug 2008 at 11:01 pm #
Brian
I have an invoice that is outstanding
let me see here…
it costs $15 a day to be my friend,,,
we have known each other since… hmmm let me look that up…
hmmm
i expect a paypal payment – you know the address
Honestly – I can see how for a church of a large size – it may be cumbersome to do electronic payments – however for a small organization – electronic payments are a dream.
Its great when you know the money is automatically coming…